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Milford Schools Will Not Change Bus Routes

After a number of public comments calling for Milford Schools to accomodate Trumbull High School students, no action is planned by the BOE to change the current system.

 

At some Board of Ed meetings, there are only one or two public comments. At the meeting Monday night, a significant number of Milford parents and students spoke up about the lack of bus accommodations for Milford students of Trumbull High School's Regional Agriscience Program.

"This is a dangerous road," said one concerned parent, who declared that the walk from his house to his child's bus stop is "over two miles."

"You're jeopardizing people's kids," the Milford parent continued.

Kelly Carville, a Junior at Trumbull High School, pointed out that "it's not really reasonable for a high school" student to walk that far.

"If you want to walk 45 minutes everyday, be my guest," Kelly told the board. "This is discouraging children to go to Trumbull High School."

The Board of Ed's Response

"They did not file a formal appeal with the board," said Board of Education Chief Operations Officer James Richetelli, who noted that the BOE does not vote on issues unless a letter is sent to the board for consideration.

Other Bus Issues 

Tom Burns of 55 Bayshore Drive spoke at the meeting, saying that he believed, "the cost would be exactly the same" if students were dropped off at Trumbull High School after bus drivers made their rounds to Milford Public Schools.

Alex Simone of 32 Pearson Ave. noted that while she gets taken by a bus to Trumbull High School, but it's at 6 a.m. and she doesn't get back home until 3:45 p.m.

"I'm usually going to bed right now," Alex added.

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CMDC, LLC September 13, 2012 at 04:41 PM
When I was in kindergarten I walked one mile to and from school every day. We were denied busing for years and years. We just had to suck it up and walk in the snow, rain or whatever it was doing outside. Back then we didn't close schools because a snowflake was coming. Today, I have a child and I homeschool her. I avoid all of this nonsense and we do it our way. It's less hassle, costs less and less stress on our family. More and more families are going this route because of the sad state our educational systems are run. I don't expect anyone to be responsible for my child, her well being or her safety. That's my job as her parent. Homeschooling is easier than most people think but the schools make it appear to be too difficult. It's not at all. Actually, I believe there should be a tax credit to all student's families and should be used any way they wish (for academics only) whether it be busing them out of district, homeschooling or whatever extra expenses are necessary to get your kids where ever they need to go but there has to be a direct connection to academics. Of course, this will never happen because people keep voting the same morons into office they always do. Career politicians got us to where we are and they don't intend on changing any of it.
RONALD M GOLDWYN September 13, 2012 at 04:43 PM
Well, think outside the box and reduce the taxes for those families whose kids must walk to school since the BOE knows the cost per pupil to transport to each school.
CMDC, LLC September 13, 2012 at 04:52 PM
I have to agree with George. (see my post below) There are many families that go without to get their child the education they need (ie homeschool families) and nobody helps us financially. The same should be for those who want education in another city. If that is what you want then you either pay for it or you move there. Our government is not going to give tax credits where education is concerned. Contrary to what they say education is not their top priority.
CMDC, LLC September 13, 2012 at 04:54 PM
It is unfortunate that we now live in a society where entitlement is expected at someone elses expense. Eventually the well will run dry and the only choice is to cut everyone off the teat. Get prepared because it's not to far off.
Jean AUSTIN September 13, 2012 at 05:04 PM
This is unbelievable!!! Send your children to an out of town school, PAY for your own transportation. END OF STORY!!
RONALD M GOLDWYN September 13, 2012 at 05:09 PM
Ed P, How come you did not use quotation marks? That line was from the Army/McCarthy hearings.
Concerned Parent September 13, 2012 at 05:11 PM
@Ed P...Here's my position, the Trumbull issue aside. We owe it to our children to provide them a good education. We also owe it to them to ensure their safety on their way to school. When it comes to buses, and the budget, you really need to look closely at it. For instance, for walkers, if you live within 2 miles of the school you are a walker. Well, 2 miles is not a short distance for any kid, especially carrying a loaded backpack. That's my concern. As far as days ago, I'm unsure of your age, but I'm one of the last of the baby boomers and we had buses who came to our stops (which were within a short walking distance) and those who walked to school but didn't need to walk 2 miles. It's been my observation that there are some people in this town who feel they do not owe these children the same benefit they received when they went to school. Perhaps its because they have no children or they simply don't care. Who knows. But we do owe it to our kids as they are the silent majority.
CMDC, LLC September 13, 2012 at 05:12 PM
Ron, the problem is this....if you reduce the taxes for this family for one reason you'll have to figure out a way to reduce the taxes for the next family for another reason. Everyone expects to be treated fairly. If a family wants to put their kids in a different environment to get a better or different education then the parents of those children need to find a way financially to make that happen. A lot of families do it and we don't expect handouts at the expense of others. No one should be entitled to this. In THIS day and age where the economy is almost at rock bottom this type of discussion shouldn't even be on the table. There are more pressing matters to deal with to recover from state of disaster we are currently facing.
CMDC, LLC September 13, 2012 at 05:13 PM
Ron, please do not start correcting someone else when you have some corrections of your own to make.
tjc360 September 13, 2012 at 05:13 PM
The BOE can't even balance a budget, they closed schools, laid off teachers, switched the schools to an awful setup (that requires a ton of buses) and still blow the budget out by 2m almost every year, I can go on and on about the Jim R job that is meaningless or the super that drives in from Hartford everyday and gets travel time (they cant hire a Milford Resident?) but my lunch is only a 1/2 hour. I would like to see what these people make a year.
Concerned Parent September 13, 2012 at 05:16 PM
George...agreed.
RONALD M GOLDWYN September 13, 2012 at 05:24 PM
I finally reached that age last June when all my grandkids are now out of the public school system of Milford and are off to college. A new experience being a taxpayer without kids or grandkids there.
CMDC, LLC September 13, 2012 at 05:30 PM
And, now you will realize what it is like to pay for something someone else is benefiting from. ;) Welcome to America!
Robert Allen September 13, 2012 at 06:17 PM
My niece goes to the Center for Global Studies in Norwalk as a freshman. Should Milford have to bus her all the way there? No. The school pays for a train pass, and then a bus from the train station to the school. Let Trumbull pay for the bus.
Ann September 13, 2012 at 07:35 PM
Ed, Yes! I do have kids! In fact my kids had to walk to school ( we were less than 1/2 mile from the school) and guess what! They lived! And became responsible adults! I just think kids could walk a block or two (with their caregivers). When I am going to work and behind a school bus having to stop literally every 50-100 feet on the same street, that is plain ridiculous! There is nothing wrong with a little exercise! Gimme a break!
Concerned Parent September 13, 2012 at 07:48 PM
Big difference between a half mile and 2 miles...not sure which bus you were behind, must be in a more influential part of Milford.
Ann September 13, 2012 at 07:56 PM
Ed, WOW! Guess you misunderstood. I meant that we might be able to justify the cost of those Trumbull buses if we saved $$ on the regular bus routes for the Milford kids attending the Milford Schools. Those buses stop every 50-100 feet which costs $$ and time stopping and starting. And what do you mean a more influential part of Milford?
Jean AUSTIN September 13, 2012 at 08:25 PM
I don't feel that children that go to school in their own town should have to walk over 1 mile to school but i see the school bus stopping 2 houses away from a stop, now that is what i would consider wasteful. My children and grandchildren no longer rely on the bus system and i am not complaining about paying taxes - we all get our turn - but i do not believe we need to be paying for children that choose to go outside of there town.
Concerned Parent September 13, 2012 at 09:37 PM
@Ed P.. My response is towards Ann and not you.
Concerned Parent September 13, 2012 at 09:41 PM
@Ed P. Your a very funny fellow.
Bob September 14, 2012 at 12:18 PM
Trumbull Agriscience and Biotechnology is part of the Open Choice Inter District school program that came out of Sheff vs O'neill court case. By law, if a school district does not have an Agriculture and Science Technology Education program of it's own, it must provide the opportunity for students to attend one out of town. The sending district is then responsible for tuition and transportation costs of the students. It has nothing to do with Trumbull. It is state law. Milford has no choice in the matter other than deciding how many students per year it will allow to attend.
Amy September 14, 2012 at 12:56 PM
Ed, How is driving your kids to school doing it "the old fashioned way"???? 100 years ago, very few people even had cars. Mothers only started driving kids around a lot in the 1980's! Before that we all walked or took the bus (a much safer alternative than hundreds of rushed parents driving around, too).We also had k-8 schools and kids didn't have to go across town for school. Not everyone can drive, not everyone has a car or the time in their work schedules to be a chaffeur. To make yourself out to be a better parent because you do is not right. Driving is a privilege and having a vehicle is a luxury to many people.
Bob September 14, 2012 at 01:32 PM
Global Studies is considered a Magnet School. I think it is funded differently by the state and if I am not mistaken, Norwalk receives a transportation grant through the state that provides the out of district transportation.
Hal DePino September 14, 2012 at 02:11 PM
This is correct with the exception of the # of students. There is a minimum requirement now because of a state law passed several years ago. Milford wanted to phase out the Trumbull program in favor of the Bridgeport Aquaculture school, which Milford also participates in as part of open choice but at a much lower pricetag than Trumbull. Bus transportation to each school is part of the state requirement. I agree with many of the posters here. Taxpayers are providing the bus and paying a hefty tuition for this specialized program. It should be the parents' responsibility to get their kids to and from the bus stop.
David Chesler September 14, 2012 at 02:25 PM
I'm a newcomer here (but not to public schools), so I mean no disrespect. As to $8k/head, how much does it cost to send a child to an in-district school? That's not deadweight loss, other than the additional transportation. How much is it costing to transport the students? Back in my day I bicycled 5 miles each way. There was a city bus, but NYC was going bankrupt and bus service was lousy. So it's doable, but a bother. 2 miles, with schools starting so early, is asking a lot, and sending a lot of students walking in the pre-dawn darkness. Where I live in your fair city is more than 2 miles from Jonathan Law, so we get a bus half a block away, and more than ??? miles from Harborside, so we get a bus at our door (same stop as when the last people lived here.) My kids could bike, but city bus? It's about a mile to the nearest bus stop, same problem. (My wife doesn't drive, like I said we're from NYC :-), and we measured.) In our case I do drive and with those early starts I could drive them to school in the morning. 3.5 miles would still be a pretty big walk in the afternoon. I'm all for saving taxes, especially if it doesn't impact me personally :-), but cutting out school buses isn't the most wasteful place to start.
Michael Brown September 14, 2012 at 02:30 PM
I lived in East Windsor and attended A.I. Prince Tech in Hartford. That required a 25 mile commute from a central bus stop, which was about a half mike from my house. I drove to school once I got my license.
Hal DePino September 14, 2012 at 04:41 PM
Actually, it does.
Michael Brown September 14, 2012 at 05:12 PM
Bus service for school children seems to be a good use of public funds. Helps the parents who have to go to work more the anything else. This "individualism" mantra should not extend to children. We are all in it together when it comes to kids.
Lisa Dipasquale September 23, 2012 at 07:17 PM
The Question should be why is this savings required not across the board,why has the funding just been lifted from the Ag students and not the other magnet schools or Vo tech schools?
Hal DePino September 24, 2012 at 12:03 PM
Not sure what you mean here by "lifted". I know Milford has almost 2000 high school students split between the Foran and Law. I've seen mentioned in these articles like 25 students in this Trumbul program and that Milford pays Trumbull $8000 per student per year to attend plus the cost of transportation. Not sure of the breakdown for other Magnet schools like the Bridgeport Aquaculture School or ECA (The Arts Magnet) but I do know the transportationfor that school is very different. A neighbor's child goes there the child is picked up and dropped off at ther high school. They get back to the high school after the regular busses leave, so the child has to wait for her mom to get her when she is done with work.

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